I've been giving this some thought ... (LOL)
And to make it clear why I think this whole thing was so bad on Justin's part I'd just like to take a minute to consider what would have been said if it were the other way around.
Say Brian had had a big offer from a NY company to handle a huge advertising and PR account, but it would mean working in NY for six to eight months
Brian's in NY when he gets the offer, stays an extra day to celebrate, fucks a famous Armani model, and then accepts the offer, apparently without giving Justin more than a passing thought.
Then he comes home to find Justin (who's recovering from a life threatening illness, by the way), beat up and in severe pain because he's been on this charity bike ride.
So , Brian doesn't drop it on him right away. Fair enough.
But by the next day, Brian still hasn't told Justin that he's planning to just take off for six months without him. And Justin tells Brian that he'd really like them to live together again, and he still doesn't tell him right away.
Can you imagine the flack that would be flying around Brian's head if he treated "poor little Sunshine" that way?
It would be :"selfish" and "asshole" and a lot more unprintable epithets all round the block.
Well, IMO, it's the same when it's Justin. To me, that's how disrespectfully Justin is treating Brian and their relationship. Courtesy of C/L, of course.
That's why I am miffed by the way this story arc is being handled.
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Date: 4/7/04 04:05 pm (UTC)I wonder, though, is this whole arc supposed to show Brian's whole "hands off" (LOL) relationship philosophy blowing up in his face? Justin knows that Brian cares about him, and his reaction would be, "do what you want, don't worry what I think." I *don't* agree with how J is handling it...but Brian doesn't really share important stuff with Justin (cancer, anyone?). Instead of Justin deciding "two wrongs don't make a right," he's perpetuating the problem by lying to B. How can J be hurt that B doesn't share stuff with him, when J does the EXACT SAME THING? It's kinda how I don't have sympathy for ppl who bitch about our government...and they don't vote.
Part of being in a partnership is sharing the important aspects of your lives. That's something that both Brian and Justin need to learn...the sooner, the better. And the sad fact that B/J don't learn from their mistakes makes me not want to watch the show. I mean, what's the point of watching the "same shit, different day" storylines?
Birthday Party?
Date: 4/7/04 08:39 pm (UTC)(I'm not cutting in this comment.) I am personally starting to withdraw in an act of self-preservation. Ending with Mike and Ben is too icky. If the Brian and Justin couple doesn't jell in some way in S5 I will be 'way too disappointed.
I'm also willing to give Cowlip miles of rope, because there was this PARTNERSHIP conversation we never got to see/hear. The fact we don't see Justin own up to the Hollywierd connection isn't that unusual.
And you know, Brian would insist that Justin go -- he would never want to hold him back. But it should be Justin who chooses to stay as Brian evidences a willingness to change. (I haven't seen 13 and 14, just read about them.)
Re: Birthday Party?
Date: 4/7/04 11:43 pm (UTC)As for the Justin thing ... the problem for me is that you would expect Justin to be majorly excited about this. Hello? Dream come true stuff.
Instead ... he says absolutely nothing about it. To anyone. Which to me means either that he is now embarrassed to admit that he accepted the job without even talking to Brian about it (yes, I know Brian will say 'take the job' but that's not the point). Or that he is afraid that when he does tell Brian that it will change things between them, so he doesn't plan on saying anything till he absolutely had to.
Neither way, IMO, is particularly healthy.
I mean, he comes home. Meets Brian at the finish line (great scene, btw). Then next day (at least) there is the dedication of the Vic Grassi house. Then there's the scene at the loft. He's had quite a bit of time in here, and you'd expect that over breakfast he just might drop the news that he's planning to take off for six months. Or at least that he's had the offer.
But quite clearly he hasn't.
So you have Brian really opening up to him, clearly feeling safe in doing so in a way that he hasn't before, and now Justin has this to drop on him.
Honestly, if my partner had accepted a job on the other side of the country, and not only didn't consult me about it before he accepted but simply didn't tell me about it at all, then I'd be rather annoyed when I found out. I think it's just plain weird behaviour.
But C/L all over. :shrugs:
Re: Birthday Party?
Date: 5/7/04 01:10 pm (UTC)Brian asks him to move in and Justin mulls it over, recognizes the relationship commitment at hand and turns down the Hollywood job. Later it comes up and he says he chose what was good for his heart (or whatever) and Brian yells and yells at him.
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Date: 16/7/04 09:41 pm (UTC)Had a picture in my purse for Randy to sign for you last night...but it wasn't that kind of moment. Bonus points for the thought, but unfortunately no ability to follow-thru. Cute boy, tho'.
LeAnn
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Date: 17/7/04 12:03 am (UTC)I was kinda hoping I'd be able to get over to the States myself to see it, but sadly not gonna happen.
I'm being sent to Tokyo for a week and I was going to fly on to NY (well, at least they're in the same hemisphere LOL!)
Unfortunately my trip to Tokyo has been delayed indefinitely, and I haven't been able to get any time off work. There's only one other person who can do my job and he's off on paternity leave at the moment, which kinda takes precedence. The irony is that his wife was 10 days late with the baby (she wound up having to be induced). If we'd known that at the beginning, I could have gone at the beginning of the run. But we were worried she be early (she was due on 5th July). So I had to hope that she would have it on time, and that he'd have a week or two off, and then I might be able to sneak off. But nothing went to plan, which I guess means that I wasn't meant to see it. Sigh.
Glad you did though. I've heard the clips and Randy sounds great.
Thanks again for thinking of me.
W